The Debt Limit: The New ‘Obama Czars’

Bill Wilson writes in the National Examiner:

>Left-wing pundits and their cronies in Congress delivered a well-timed second punch to the Obama news conference on the continuing fight over an increase in the U.S. debt limit today. While Obama tried to show he was “involved” in the negotiations, his henchmen announced that it might not matter; that Congress really had no saying in the debt limit. The thrust of their argument is that the 14th Amendment to the Constitution requires the President to do whatever he wants in order to ensure, “The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law … shall not be questioned.”

The Constitution? Just because we paste the Constitution on everything, wear revolutionary hats, and can’t shut up about the Constitution doesn’t mean we actually care what it says.

>Overlooking the entire context of the section of the Amendment – ensuring debts incurred to battle the Confederacy were honored and barring the government or any state from assuming the debts of the rebel government

Yeah, keep it in context. Just because they ammended the Constitution doesn’t mean they thought people would still be following it after a couple of years. And only a liberal would interpret “public debt” to mean military and non-military debt. But when the Constitution says: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed,” THAT’S different. That means all firearms, explosives, grenade launchers, bazookas, and portable nuclear devices should never be banned or even regulated, regardless of whether there’s a war or even a “well regulated Militia.”

>the apologists for the Administration assert that it is a universal mandate.

Yeah, who ever said the Constitution is a universal mandate?

>From this they claim the President has the power to ignore Congress and issue as much new debt as he deems appropriate.

Bush issued debt for the entire Iraq War without congressional approval but Obama has to get congress to okay the money he spends saving the economy not once but twice. Hey, Democrats didn’t want the Iraq War to happen. If you get to blow off the debt just because you lost the 2008 election, does that mean we can blow off paying the $3 trillion for the Iraq War?

>Were Congress to truly represent the People who by large margins oppose an increase in the debt limit

Bullshit as usual. It’s not even a Republican majority, which is saying a lot for a group of authoritarians so retarded that polls show they overwhelmingly believe ACORN will steal the 2012 election despite being non-existent and that Fannie and Freddie caused a banking crisis in nations they weren’t even in because Fox News said so. A Washington Post-ABC News poll shows that 55 percent of Democrats and half of Republicans and independents support a debt-limit deal that includes a steep reduction in the size of government. But 37 percent of Republicans, a third of independents and nearly a fifth of Democrats say they are against raising the debt limit, under any circumstances. That so many Democrats are against raising the debt limit makes me wonder if people taking the poll even know that this is for raising the limit for money that is already spent. It’s basically like someone deciding to take money out of the bank because he doesn’t agree with the check his wife already wrote.

>What the Administration could not do is incur new debt, additional debt. They could not spend trillions of dollars more than they take in. An instant balanced budget would result

Republicans have been using this “Starve the Beast” bullshit for 30 years, and it’s never worked once, and Republicans still believe it.

>There is enough money for that. Everything else would then become a political decision. Does he pay Social Security claims and deny our armed forces their pay? Does he play the time honored game of past hucksters and charlatans by looking to blocki funding with the aim of hurting the public in order to get the legislative branch to give in? Or, is there a statesman inside that otherwise apparent empty suit?

What part of this paragraph am I supposed to like? Tax cuts for billionaires who blew up the world are mandatory, but forcing Obama to choose between paying people their rightfully earned SS or cutting funding for the troops is a humorous game. He sounds like a fucking psycho.

>Obama could shut down all the wasteful and needless departments and agencies of the government – HUD, Commerce, Labor, etc.

“First by inflation, then by deflation…”

>The list of things Obama could do is near endless, things that would save money so he could meet the constitutional mandate of the 14th Amendment while pairing back the monstrous federal government.

Yes, the list is endless. Never mind the fact that it would mean either Social Security and Medicare would immediately have to be cut by a third or everything else would have to be cut in half. Obama will have to go through 80 million bills and figure out which ones to pay. Factcheck says: “The path urged by Bachmann and DeMint has little support among budget experts and economists. ‘The notion of paying interest first is dumb,’ said Rudolph Penner, a Republican former CBO director who is now with the liberal-leaning Urban Institute.”

Although it’s true that Obama was against raising the debt limit when Bush was president, what typically goes unsaid is that every politican in the party out of power has been “hypocritical” in using the debt to push their side’s agenda, but every year a deal was made early on which is why we never heard about it. There was a time when the debt limit vote was taken away by Democrats to stop this political hostage taking, but it was the Republicans who brought it back. The debt limit was raised 7 times during Bush without anyone knowing about it, but now that it’s on the news, even a lot of Democrats are acting like this is something new that needs to be dealt with now. It reminds me of Obama’s all new dreaded czars that needs the be dealt with now now now when FDR had 11 czars 80 years ago and it was Bush who tripled the number of czars. I have a hard time understanding how 50 year olds didn’t know we had czars before Obama when I can remember Reagan’s drug czar from when I was 8, and I wasn’t exactly interested in news back then.

One wonders why Republicans don’t demand these things when they are in power. Maybe because we’re “broke.” But if we’re “broke,” and Europe is “broke,” and the world is “broke,” where did all the money go? Our shared historical conception of the Depression is that everyone is broke leaves out the crucial other half of the equation, that the richest people always profit when the market contracts like this: they are the recipients of all the money that contemporary society perceives as “disappearing into thin air.” This is still different from the conservative alternate history that the stock market crash had little to do with the Depression and that FDR got all the credit for pulling us out from Hitler starting WWII.

Obama has now put cuts to Social Security and Medicare cuts on the table to lure Republicans back to the table, but so far they’re refusing even this.

Krugman wries:

“So the goal may be to paint the G.O.P. into a corner, making Republicans look like intransigent extremists — which they are.

But let’s be frank. It’s getting harder and harder to trust Mr. Obama’s motives in the budget fight, given the way his economic rhetoric has veered to the right. In fact, if all you did was listen to his speeches, you might conclude that he basically shares the G.O.P.’s diagnosis of what ails our economy and what should be done to fix it…..

People have asked me why the president’s economic advisers aren’t telling him not to believe in the confidence fairy — that is, not to believe the assertion, popular on the right but overwhelmingly refuted by the evidence, that slashing spending in the face of a depressed economy will magically create jobs. My answer is, what economic advisers? Almost all the high-profile economists who joined the Obama administration early on have either left or are leaving.

Nor have they been replaced. As The Wall Street Journal recently noted, there are a “stunning” number of vacancies in important economic posts. So who’s defining the administration’s economic views?….

Mr. Obama’s people will no doubt argue that their fellow party members should trust him, that whatever deal emerges was the best he could get. But it’s hard to see why a president who has gone out of his way to echo Republican rhetoric and endorse false conservative views deserves that kind of trust.”

“Because failure to raise the debt ceiling would be so nasty, that very possibility could cause serious economic damage even if the odds of an actual default never approach 50%.”
–The Economist

“Top economist: Raise the debt ceiling or blow the recovery ‘out of the water'”
–Yahoo

“The chance of Congress not increasing the debt limit, however, is next to none.”
–ABC

“It would be a disaster if we defaulted on our debt. It would be a disaster if we were hit by an asteroid. I think being hit by an asteroid is a more likely scenario,”
— J.D. Foster, an expert on fiscal policy with the conservative Heritage Foundation.

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4 thoughts on “The Debt Limit: The New ‘Obama Czars’

  1. “What will happen is that we’d have to stop making payments to our seniors — Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security,” Geithner recently said in an ABC interview. “We’d have to stop paying veterans’ benefits. We’d have to stop paying all the other payments on all the other things the government does.

    “And then we would risk default on our interest payments,” he added.

    A Congressional Research Service report backed that up Geithner’s assessment. It said the federal government needs to borrow $738 billion beyond the current statutory limit to finance obligations for the remainder of this fiscal year, which ends Sept. 30.

    http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2011/may/16/randy-forbes/rep-randy-forbes-says-holding-line-debt-limit-does/

    “Moody’s is getting antsy over the lack of progress on a deal to raise the debt limit and cut the deficit, reports the Washington Post. It warned today that it will consider lowering the nation’s credit rating unless a deal emerges by mid-July, citing a “very small but rising risk of a short-lived default.”

    http://www.newser.com/story/120069/moodys-warns-us-to-strike-deal-on-debt-limit.html

    Minnesota lost its top credit rating on Thursday as Fitch Ratings downgraded the state’s general obligation bonds one notch to AA-plus, citing the budget impasse. Minnesota’s state government has been shut since last Friday, when Democratic Governor Mark Dayton and the Republican-led legislature missed the July 1 deadline for a budget.

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/43681066/Minnesota_Loses_AAA_Rating_on_Budget_Problems

    Ever wondered how many bills the federal government pays in a month? It’s not 100, or 1,000, or 10,000, or even 200,000. It’s 80 million. Every month. And according to a new analysis by the Bipartisan Policy Center, if the debt ceiling isn’t raised by Aug. 2, the Treasury Department is going to have to figure out which 30 million of those bills should go unpaid.
    The BPC’s analysis was led by Jay Powell, who served as undersecretary of the Treasury in George H.W. Bush’s administration. It’s not pretty. Powell and his team estimate that if we don’t raise the debt ceiling, Treasury will only be able to pay 55-60% of the federal government’s bills in August.

    The paper lays out a few scenarios for how that might go. In the “Protect Big Programs” scenario, Treasury pays bills related to interest on the debt, Medicare and Medicaid, Social Security, defense suppliers and unemployment insurance. That means it stops paying military salaries, gives up on the FBI and the Centers for Disease Control, cuts all funding for food stamps and education, shuts down air control, tells NASA to head home, freezes the paycheck of every federal employee, and much more. In another, the Treasury Department tries to protect the social safety net, but has to stop supplying the troops, sending out tax refunds, inspecting offshore oil rigs, etc.

    This also leads to an extraordinary assertion of executive power. The executive branch carries out the laws enacted by Congress. Asking them to “prioritize” across different spending needs is asking them to selectively decide between different laws that Congress has passed.

    Since the Treasury has never had to make these decisions before, no one quite knows how they’ll be made. The BPC estimates a 44 percent drop in federal spending, but can’t precisely estimate where that drop will happen. That means nobody else can, either. So as we get closer to doomsday, companies that contract with the federal government will start hoarding cash to tide them through a period in which they might stop being paid. Seniors and other Americans who rely on federal transfers would be wise to do the same. And then if we do pass the borrowing limit, the economy is going to have to absorb a sudden and sharp drop in federal spending, which will reverberate among businesses that don’t directly work with the government but sell to those who do.

    But at least we’re leaving the bond market alone, right? Wrong. According to the BPC’s calculations, the federal government needs to roll over $500 billion of debt in August. If we’re in quasi-default, who will want to purchase that debt? What will they charge us when they do purchase that debt? A 10 percent premium would cost us $50 billion. A one percent premium would cost us $5 billion. And that’s only the direct cost. Because so many other kinds of debt benchmark against the rates the Treasury pays, you’ll see borrowing costs rising throughout the system. Mortgages, corporate borrowing, all of it. It won’t just be the federal government that pays. It’ll be the economy.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/what-failure-to-raise-the-debt-ceiling-will-look-like/2011/05/19/AGK9tvtH_blog.html?wprss=ezra-klein

  2. “…Obama has to get congress to okay the money he spends saving the economy not once but twice.”

    Saving the economy?????

    And there are just as many “reports & Studies” that show or claim the opposite of those you show here.

    And do you honestly believe that only the republicans, Bush & the “Tea Party” are the ONLY ones to blame for the plight of the country today?

    I for one am sick of seeing intelligent Americans who constantly attack and accuse others of a different party of all klnds of political, ethical and or legal slip-ups yet turn a blind eye to the same problems in their own party.

    Shame on ALL of you left & right.

  3. Yes, every president since FDR, including Reagan, has accepted the necessity of government spending to make up for the lack of private spending when the economy is hit with this kind of a downturn in order to keep us from falling into a liquidity trap. McCain called the stimulus “generational theft” but it was only slightly higher than his own stimulus plan. Still, Keynesian economists said Obama’s stimulus was way too small and predicted a sluggish recovery. Supply siders said it would cause interest rates to soar and a double dip recession. The former prediction came true, and although the Right claims the stimulus did no good whatsoever, the CBO and every other nonpartisan analyst who looked at it said it succeeded for what it was worth. Too bad Obama disagreed: he dismissed all his economists and started adopting the austerity rhetoric of the Right after his 2010 defeat.

    The claim that there are “just as many” reports and studies that say the opposite of something is probably one of the most stereotypical replies of the political illiterate I’ve come to know. Name one.

    And no, Republicans, Bush, and the Tea Party are not the only ones to blame for the plight of the country. Democrats are also to blame for not standing up for anything. And the media gets a good part of the blame for always portraying everything with false centrism: Democrats ignore both economists and the polls so they can argue whether to give Republicans 90% or 100% of what they want, and this is portrayed as a partisan crisis.

    But if you mean the debt: sorry, that’s the Republicans fault. Reagan tripled the debt with his massive tax breaks. But at least he recognized his mistake and enacted the largest tax cut in history to make up for the largest tax cut in history, the raised taxes 8 more times to stop it from being even worse. Clinton raised taxes and balanced the budget, but Greenspan worried we were paying off the debt too fast. So Bush then lowered taxes and the debt tripled again, only this time they kept pretending the tax cuts were making money even though their chief economist basically called them liars. Cheney even said, “Reagan proved deficits don’t matter.” Obama was talking about the possibility of a housing crisis and Hillary Clinton warned Bush about the crisis as early as 2006 but was ignored. Greenspan was also warned about the crisis but said that the benefits “are worth the risk” in September 2007.

    If you think I turn a blind eye to the Democrats, then you haven’t read much of this blog. Obama is even worse than Bush in the civil liberties department and despite vowing to be “the most open administration ever” is engaged in a War on Whistleblowers even some Republican Neo-Cons find over-authoritative. Every month Obama murders innocent women and children in Pakistan with drone missiles and then lies about it, saying there’s no collateral damage. Democrats made civil liberties their #1 argument against Bush, but you don’t hear anything about tapped phonecalls or Guantamino any more for the exact same reason Republicans suddenly remembered what fiscal hawks they were the second a Democrat walked into office. Now an insider has said he’s no longer a Keynesian (even Nixon was a Keynesian!), so we basically have a Republican president masquerading as a Democrat.

    Both sides have been bought out by special interests. The Republicans enjoy socialism a lot more than they profess and the Democrats are enthralled by Wall Street and the military industrial complex more then they would like to admit. But just bellowing out “a plague on both your houses” is meaningless.

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